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snowshoe
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 Posted - Aug 05 2012 : 10:45:30
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| I'm thinking of loading the Barnes TTSX 110gr in a 7.62x39 case for whitetails. There's a couple different powders that should get me to 2200+ fps. Not exactly sure of the terminal performance at 100 yds, but curious if anyone has used this bullet in this case for hunting. |
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Savage99
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bobnob
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Australia
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Posted - Aug 11 2012 : 01:31:24
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Originally posted by snowshoe
I'm thinking of loading the Barnes TTSX 110gr in a 7.62x39 case for whitetails. There's a couple different powders that should get me to 2200+ fps. Not exactly sure of the terminal performance at 100 yds, but curious if anyone has used this bullet in this case for hunting.
I would have thought the standard cup and core bullets in the 123-125 range would be better at 7.62x39 speeds. Something like the SST or the Speer Hot Cor, or Pro Hunter.
110g is really light for a bullet over 30 cal.
No harm in seeing how it goes on paper and over the chrono. If the numbers stack up, try it on game. |
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Paul B
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Posted - Aug 24 2012 : 18:19:45
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"110g is really light for a bullet over 30 cal."
Normally I would agree with you but the bullet in question is a solid copper bullet. My personal opinion though is the 7.63x39 will not produce enough velocity even with that bullet. It has been said that speed is the Barnes type bullet's best friends. I believe that holds true regardless of caliber. I don't think the 7.62x39 will push it fast enough to be truly effective.
Barnes bullets can be slow killers esexially in .24 and 25 calibr if the velocity isn't high enough. I get about 2900 FPS from my .257 Robt. with the TSX bullet and frankly, I'm a bit worried about using them on deer if the shots are a bit far out. My wife will be using it for her deer hunt but I'll be backing her up with something a lot more potent. She's hunted with me before but is the first time she'll actually be shooting at game. I do know that the 225 gr. Barnes TS is devastating on elk.  
Paul B.
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lancetkenyon
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 28 2012 : 18:43:45
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My .25-06 Ack Imp just put a deer down without a single step at 488 yds. with a Barnes 100gr TTSX. It was still travelling somewhere around 2500fps when it hit him, and I had a complete pass through with him quartering on to me. Entered right behind the right front shoulder blade, and exited the left hip. Barnes suggests velicities of 1600+fps for their copper bullets to perform as designed. I would think that would be way out there with a .257 Roberts, like around 720 yds or so. But then the kinetic energy is only about 550lt/lbs. Not enough without a perfect broadside shot at a very light-skinned medium game animal in my opinion.
In the area I deer hunt, the AZ Game & Fish Department is continuing the California Condor program, and asks the hunters to use only non-lead bullets to help eliminate the Condors from eating gut piles with lead fragments, and dying from lead poisoning. That limits bullet selection greatly, leaving few besides Barnes and the Hornady GMX that I know of. |
Edited by - lancetkenyon on Nov 28 2012 18:49:08 |
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simpson8771
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - Dec 01 2012 : 10:42:59
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I have read that the all copper bullets, like Barnes, need 1800fps velocity, and the gilding metal bullets, like Nosler's E-Tip, need 2000fps to function properly. I load Barnes TTSX for my 7-08(120gr @ 3000fps), and for my 270 Win(110gr @ 3400fps) and love them. I would not load your 7.62x39 with either of these bullets, they are to hard to work right @ this rounds velocity. If it were my gun, I would load the Hornady SST's or the Nosler Ballistic Tips, I think they will do the job for you, IMHO |
A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine |
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Paul B
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Posted - Dec 01 2012 : 15:43:12
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"In the area I deer hunt, the AZ Game & Fish Department is continuing the California Condor program, and asks the hunters to use only non-lead bullets to help eliminate the Condors from eating gut piles with lead fragments, and dying from lead poisoning. That limits bullet selection greatly, leaving few besides Barnes and the Hornady GMX that I know of."
Sounds to me like you're either hunting the Kaibab or the AZ strip country. I think Nosler is making a monometal now which will give you another option.
The wife and I drew tags for the Kaibab this year but circumstances prevented us from going.  Took us 6 years to get those tags too.
Oh well, I stil have my cow elk hunt to look foreward to in just a bit over a month.
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lancetkenyon
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - Dec 03 2012 : 12:42:04
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Yep. Hunted up on the Kaibab. Took me 9 years to draw the tag. I used to hunt archery up there every year until they made it a draw also. I remember why I love it up there, stunningly beautiful and a lot of deer...when you know where to find them and are not too lazy to get out of your truck.
Good to hear about Nosler getting into the game, and if I didn't have a LOT of Barnes already loaded and worked up, I would give them a try. Maybe for my next rifle I build...... |
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Chop1
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Posted - Mar 03 2013 : 16:53:50
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| I used a few of the barnes loads to take deer in my 270 wsm with 130 gr., however this was alot more velocity 7.62x39 I have also been pondering the use of the 110 gr. TSX bullet in my 300 wsm at around 3600-3700 fps. just for kicks. I wonder if it could hold up to that much velocity? Could be a sweet deer load! |
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honkerhitter
Senior Member
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Posted - Mar 03 2013 : 20:22:52
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Originally posted by Chop1
I used a few of the barnes loads to take deer in my 270 wsm with 130 gr., however this was alot more velocity 7.62x39 I have also been pondering the use of the 110 gr. TSX bullet in my 300 wsm at around 3600-3700 fps. just for kicks. I wonder if it could hold up to that much velocity? Could be a sweet deer load!
It would be interesting to see the results in some sort of test medium, it would be a stress test for any bullet , the tsx is a tough bullet it May.... Hold up. |
" Use what is known to work, reject what does not work, and add something of your own to make it unique" BRUCE LEE. |
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Chop1
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Posted - Mar 04 2013 : 16:40:55
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| Yep, I think that would put those "petals" to the test for sure! |
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jtlgun
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - Mar 06 2013 : 22:38:31
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| For a long while I thought the TTSX (and TSX) was just a marketing gimick; I held tight with Partitions, Fail Safes, Sciroccos, and the like. But I was looking for a real long range flat shooter to hunt vaal rhebok in the African Eastern Cape last fall. So I worked up loads for the Barnes 110 gr TTSX in my 270 WSM. Couldn't have found a better match for these relatively small antelope at ranges of 250 or better. Dropped Vaal, Cape Bushbuck, Common Reedbuck, and Duiker all with one shot. No bullet recovery, as they were all through shots. Now the mountain reedbuck was a very messy three shot-kill, but it was not the fault of the bullet; gusting winds and P-poor shot placement were to blame. |
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Zhurh
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Posted - Apr 16 2013 : 16:59:33
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| We have killed a whole bunch of caribou with the 6.8 stag. .277 110 ttsx, 28 grains h322. One bullet I keep over a dozen boxes on my bench shelf. |
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Shastaboat
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Apr 16 2013 : 18:01:00
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| I once tried to best the wolf 7.62x39 HP factory ammo and just couldn't do it. Their 123 gr. HP ammo (grey case) chonoes at 2500 fps in my Ruger SS bolt rifle. (Green case shoots to 2450 fps.) Both shoots to 1" for me at 100 yards, but with a different impact point. Both do a side shot full pass through on blacktail deer. Since I have about 1500 rounds of this stuff I gave up handloading 7.62x39. the bullets have a pretty thick jacket and I've wondered how they would perform on mule deer but never tried. Maybe I should use it this year if I draw out. |
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Barnes 110gr TTSX for whitetail
