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hubel458
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Posted - Feb 27 2007 : 22:08:06
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Here is picture of the first falling block model of aluminum, with a roughed out stock to see how it looks. Action is a rough model. It shoulders nice, and lever is inlet into pistol grip, so you can't get banged up fingers with the big cartridges it is designed for, like levers that stick down at the guard.Ed

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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 03 2007 : 10:27:38
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The stock on this action can be a straight grip also, as the lever can be straightened to fit.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 08 2007 : 19:03:52
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Here is pic of action model with lever open and the breech block down. Also the action will have a slot in the top rear for a top tang of whatever length you need. Can even have long tang for tang sight.Ed

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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 12 2007 : 21:31:08
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Info about the toggle link. It is up inside the breech block, and quite short,and that allows the overall height of the action to be relatively compact, for the huge cases we plan on using.But yet the top part of the breechblock is solid for great strength.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 17 2007 : 20:59:42
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Asked about using 900 gr saboted bullets in 3" plastic cases in regular barrels with 4759 or RL-15 and starter powder. With bullets that heavy you'd have too high of pressures with 4759 for plastic cases. Possibly could do it with RL-15 and starter powder in plastic, but only in heavy barreled like NEF.
But the 600 gr Dixie is still the best for most uses in plastic.
A NEF and brass RMC cases would handle 900 gr Saboted bullet with RL-15 and starter powder. Start at 80 gr Rl-15 and go up if cases don't expand to much to resize.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 01:08:10
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Here is pic of a double that I will put barrels in, monoblock style, using the breech section for the monoblock. This one will be for 28GA FH. May get another same size for my 510HE. I will be able to run full pressures with these.....I am trying to find a bigger, heavier one to put 12GA FH in. I want heavier one so as to run pressures like my Savage as a minimum.Ed.

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hubel458
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Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 01:15:02
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I was looking at an 8ga single on GB, that looked heavy enough to put a barrel in for 12ga or 700HE. They wanted much more than it cost new.It was a real heavy Spanish single. If I found an extra, or the 8ga Tonolini double, I might leave it 8ga, as I could make a few cases by reworking 20mm Suzy brass, can be done without adding rim,which would be super strong cases like our 12ga FH.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Apr 11 2007 : 01:03:42
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Had question about locking RMC cases onto lead slugs, as they don't crimp into the grooves well as sharp bend works thick mouth. First I resize tight and slightly bell mouth.Insert slugs which take a little pressure. Then I use a die with slightly more taper and swage the mouth into slug, like the fit you get with bottleneck cases. Same deal works with our long cases made from BMG brass.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 01:02:26
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Preliminary testing with VV N-110 powder shows it works with small primers like the 4759 powder does, in plastic cases. Perfect ignition on first bunch of loads with 600gr slugs.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Apr 21 2007 : 21:32:48
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More VV N-110 testing that we got done. Starting loads are 60 gr min like 4759 for good ignition,600gr slug. In 2 & 3/4" plastic full load is 75gr with card and 1/4" cushion wad.In Nef 24" bbl 1700fps. In 3" plastic 87gr, card and 3/8" wad, 1800 plus. In RMC brass case. 100gr, card and 1/2 wad 1900 plus. All running same safe pressures as 4759 lab tested. So that is two powders that are slower than shotgun powders, and much safer to work with for regular primers, giving at least 20% more velocity. Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 23:30:20
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Testing soft buckhammer vs hard Dixie. Dixie 600 gr, Buckhammer from factory hull 640gr with locked on wad,both out of Savage at 2300. Dixie went through 2 -1/8" steel sheets and on through two more 3 feet away.Buckhammer went through first two with same round hole, but made a bunch of dents and one cockeyed hole 3 ft away.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - Apr 29 2007 : 23:55:26
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Along with the two slower than shotgun powders, IMR 4759 and VV N110 that ignite reliably with shotgun primers, that are easier to load for slugs, in heavy bbl can get 20% plus more velocity, I've found another. It is IMR 7383 $3 a lb surplus. Tested plastic 3" cases, perfect ignition with regular primers. 8 types of cases,600gr slug starting load 100gr. Full load 140gr giving 1800 fps plus in 24" bbl NEF.With loads halfway between start and full didn't even have to resize to shoot again.Full load just has a card wad under slug in 3" plastic.Wad just tight on charge, as no extreme compression of powder needed. Will do heavier slugs and RMC brass cases. Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - May 02 2007 : 18:46:40
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Tested 7383 with 730gr Dixie, 130gr gets 1650 plus fps in NEF 24" bbl. Used 3" plastic cases. Same low expansion as 7383 the 600gr loads and the 4759 lab tested loads. Ignition perfect, no hesitation.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - May 05 2007 : 23:05:52
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Tested 800g slug with 7383 in plastic.Works good. Have question about different cases and dies. The RMC cases use a shotgun primer, thus they have a real thick base. They are not a thin headed, balloon headed case, and RMC makes sides thick enough for regular 12ga wads. But in a break action the 3" plastic cases with our 4759, VV110, 7383 loads are close to RMC in power. Can buy a hundred plastic for price of one RMC. 3.5" chamber 12ga with plastic is as good as RMC for 3" And if I shot RMC in Savage to get more power, which I could do as far as the firing process, the expansion above the base, due to being a turned case would make extraction stiff, causing extractor to damage rim. A turned rim will not take what a drawn one will. Rcbs set should do RMC easy.Ed
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hubel458
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Posted - May 19 2007 : 23:37:01
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Finished test of 7383/870 slug in NEF. Tested 870gr hardened slug with 118gr of 7383, got 1500 plus. Perfect ignition. Cases ejected easy, and has same base expansion as the 600 gr slug/140gr 7383. Will have these pressure/velocity tested in few weeks.Ed
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